Saturday, September 8, 2007

The Jena 6 -- A Mob of Cowardly Thugs

This is the final installment of my three part series on the Jena 6. In Part I, I talked about how, as in the Duke Lacrosse case, an appealing narrative can trump the facts, and I suggested that maybe, just maybe, a bit of skepticism was justified. Since nearly everybody -- even Jonah Goldberg -- has jumped on the "Free the Jena 6" bandwagon, somebody ought to at least raise a few points on the other side. Part II provided the whole ugly background, but I want to emphasize again that I don't think any of that stuff matters. Yes, it adds to that In the Heat of the Night vibe, but what is relevant is what occurred on December 4, 2006, when Robert Bailey, Mychal Bell, Carwin Jones, Bryant Purvis, Theo Shaw, and an unnamed minor attacked Justin Barker, stomped on him with their feet, and knocked him unconscious.

It's important to note what they defenders of the Jena 6 are not arguing. They're not proclaiming actual innocence. They're not saying the attack didn't happen, or that it's a case of mistaken identity, or even that Justin Barker attacked them and they were trying to subdue him. Nope -- they do claim he "taunted" Robert Bailey, but that's no excuse.

The defenders of the Jena 6 consistently try to minimize the victim's injuries. Justin Barker had a concussion, and his eye was swollen shut from the beating. A concussion is a head injury, and any head injury can be life threatening. And yet, the word "concussion" is often left out when describing Barker's injuries. For example, this YouTube video -- endorsed by Radley Balko -- fails to mention the word concussion, and it bends over backwards to minimize Barker's injuries. It's true, by the way, that Barker attended a "ring ceremony" at his high school the night after the beating, but I don't think it is fair to characterize it as a mere social event, or to use that fact against him.

This USA Today report waxes eloquent about the grassroots movement to free the Jena 6, but it barely mentions the victim, Justin Barker, and it never uses the word "concussion." Radley Balko over at The Agitator -- whose work I have praised in the past -- has mentioned the Jena 6 case several times, but a search on his site for the name "Justin Barker" turns up -- nothing. To Balko and the other defenders of the Jena 6, the actual victim of the attack becomes invisible. Even worse, one blogger, Laura at "Pursuing Holiness," went so far as to list the more serious injuries that could have been inflicted:

Stomped on badly? Where are the broken ribs, bodywide contusions and abrasions, renal injuries? Stepped on face? Where’s the broken nose, loose and missing teeth?

What's Laura trying to say, that they should have stomped on him harder? They didn't bust his nose and cause renal injuries, so it's OK? In a later post, Laura went so far as to post a picture of the beaten Justin Barker and opine that his injuries weren't really that bad. I wonder how Laura would feel if somebody posted a picture of a female victim of domestic violence and said "he didn't beat her up so badly. What's the big deal?"

Words cannot express how despicable this is.

Which leads me to the most despicable part of all. SIX students -- Robert Bailey, Mychal Bell, Corwin Jones, Bryant Pervis, The Shaw, and an unnamed minor attacked ONE guy. Some of the Jena defenders want to characterize this as a fight -- Laura casually asserts that "Kids in school fight on a regular basis." Garden State Subversive calls the attack a "school yard fight."

It wasn't a fight -- it was a beating. A fight is when two relatively equally matched individuals square off, one-on-one. If Mychal Bell or any single one of his accomplices had fought Barker one-on-one it might still be a crime, but there are those who argue that manly fisticuffs should be tolerated. But a group attack on a single victim violates the code of manly combat. As does stomping on a guy when he's already down and semi-conscious.

Robert Bailey, Mychal Bell, Corwin Jones, Bryant Pervis, The Shaw, and that one unnamed minor are cowards. Six star football players attack one guy and kick him on the ground -- and nobody even mentions that it was a despicable, cowardly act? If you want to argue that they were overcharged, fine, make your argument. I disagree, but that's OK. But at least acknowledge that what they did was wrong, and wrong in a way that shows that there is something rotten to the core about those six. If I could talk to Mychal Bell's parents right now, I'd ask them if they are ashamed to have raised a son who has to fight his fights at six-to-one odds. Maybe if he's released he will beat up a dwarf for an encore. Maybe he can get a couple of his friends to back him up, in case the dwarf is particularly fit.

And let me add just this one final point. If we reverse the races, I very much doubt that people would be posting pictures of a black victim and callously proclaiming he didn't look that badly hurt. I doubt they'd be quibbling about whether shoes can be deadly weapons, when worn by high school football players. (Answer: of course they can.) I suspect that they would at least take note of the fact that the attack wasn't a fair fight, but was instead a six-on-one affair. I suspect that when the attempted murder charge was reduced, there would have been howls of outrage -- not because the remaining charges would be too severe, but because I think that the defenders of the Jena 6 would be more than willing to see six white football players stomping on a lone black victim as attempted murder.

Or, better yet, attempted lynching.

[Update: More thoughts here and here.]

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shirley temple said...

excellent, excellent and the first unbiased commentary I have found yet on the web. Spread the truth. Thank yhou

Anonymous said...

You know untile i read your blog i really didnt see it that way...all i had been reading was racism...a an all white shade tree,some nooses being hung, racial fights and 6 black students being charged for attempted murder...and i was outraged..more so pissed off at the fact that i didnt believe that this still really happend...but now after reading your blog it made me see it in a whole different light...before i felt really bad for these boys and now that you mentioned it was a pussy thing to do 6-1..blacks on white...dispicable...very very unmanly thing to do...and you did say it COWARDLY..thanks for a diff insight

Anonymous said...

Please....Face the facts it is what it is. Pure racism on both sides. Unbiased? Mary Jo do you know the meaning of the word?
Hollywood research the facts and go from there not because someone mentioned it was a pus** thing to do.
Cheerful your just lost...

rotcoddam said...

Your reasoning is so close to being right - but isn't.
A law not fairly enforced is not a fair law. So all that background (in your Part deux) that you say is irrelevant to the immediate case at hand, IS relevant. Speaking as a middle-aged white guy, when a white guy pulls a gun on a black guy, the black guy takes it away (and doesn't shoot) and the black guy is charged with STEALING THE GUN !!! that's pretty effed up. Sounds like some shit Dave Chappell would make up - but it's TRUE. I suppose if the black guy was found at the bottom of a river wrapped in chains, the sheriff would conclude that he'd stolen more chain than he could swim with - and that would be the end of it. In such a town, to accuse a guy of attempted murder for participating in or even leading a group beating of a fellow student is overkill.
These dudes on both sides are all knuckleheads or worse. Part of all their punishment is that they have to live out the rest of their miserable lives (for which misery they will, of course, blame everyone but themselves). But Mychal has apparently served a year in jail already because of this charge. That is way more than enough and way out of proportion to any punishment doled out to the white guys.
If you don't get the basic unfairness of that, then you just don't get it.

Anonymous said...

I agree, they should be punished. How about assault?!! How about even felonious assault?! Oh no, in the south we gotta go straight to locking up the heavy-melanin people for life. I'm wearing black today and I feel it's a disgrace to America that this is even an argument.

Anonymous said...

Finally, a blog that has shown the real facts of this story. I had to search 20 items on google before I found one that didn't make this out to be a white racist event. If the victim had been black, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be screaming that it was attempted murder, no matter the age of the perpetrators. This is not about race, it is about the fact that 6 punks jumped on one boy and tried to beat him to DEATH!! Also, why isn't anyone bringing up the fact that Al Sharpton should be in prison for what he did in making up the Tawana Brawley "incident" in the mid-90's instead of stirring up more trouble in Jena about "racist mistreatment" of yet another group of "young innocent blacks" by the "white establishment".

Anonymous said...

Finally, someone who is willing to post the facts. Also, the comparison of the Jena 6 beating against 6 white football players beating up on a black guy, and someone posting about a victim of domestic violence and saying her injuries don't matter really brings the truth to light. These kids tried to kill that guy, but everyone says it's OK because he was white and they were black.

For some reason in this country, it has become OK for black people to do whatever they want to whomever they want. They can cry and cry about how victimized they are all day long, then join gangs and kill eachother. They create many of their own problems. Then they blame whitey for everything. Yes, they are discriminated against, but that doesn't absolve them of their responsibilities. Black people hate white people more than anything else. They are some of the most racist people around. They call eachother the "N" word and "ho", and it's OK. But if a white guy does it he's pure evil. They think they are special, and the world stupidly agrees.

This whole thing is disgusting- everyone saying it's OK to beat up on a white guy just because. And STILL the black community is in protest. I'm sure many of them want to give the kids a medal for smacking up a white guy.

No matter what the punishment, the black community will be upset.

Listen up african american persons: You CANNOT beat up a person just because they are white (or any other race for that matter). You cannot KILL white people just because your ancestors were slaves and you are pissed about that. Yes, there is discrimination, it sucks. Yes, there were a few things wrong with the trial (a friend of the victim's family on the jury- bad) but they beat up a white guy just because- and they WERE trying to kill him- they easily could have.
In general, one would expect you to at least help each other, and you don't. Even this case shows an example of that: None of the 300 or so black persons who were called for jury duty showed up, There were NO BLACK persons AVAILABLE for the jury! (Info from Wiki.) One of the kids attorneys, a black guy, did nothing for him!! Just like you do for yourselves and eachother. Your gangs kill more black people than anyone else. Stop it yourself-you are the only ones who can. And PLEASE when a black gang member kills a black child, STOP getting on the damn news and BEG for mercy from any gangs. Gang members have no humanity or compassion, remember?

Also, if a racial slur is one to you then don't use it. If you can say this about one your dearest friends: "that's my N...." then it is no longer a racial slur. The word only means "black" after all. And if your men are going to refer to your women as "Hoes" then why not everyone else? At least do your best to take responsibility for yourself.

Anonymous said...

I love it. the world is so messed up. I was just reading up on the whole event because a girl outside our school library was protesting, saying to let the Jena 6 go free. What the crap? People are so set on seeing things the way the want to and at their preferred angle that they don't take time to see the Entire situation. Keep writing. I enjoy it.

Anonymous said...

"Robert Bailey, Mychal Bell, Corwin Jones, Bryant Pervis, The Shaw, and that one unnamed minor are cowards. Six star football players attack one guy and kick him on the ground ..."

With all due respect, six stand accused. No single witness at Bell's trial could recall more than 2 or 3 people being involved. While we are being skeptical, lets examine the assumption that six kids beat up one kid.

As for the actual involvement: "Coach Benjy Lewis gave two statements immediately after the school incident in which he clearly states that Justin Barker was facing him when Malcolm Shaw (not Mychal Bell) struck Barker from behind. “I saw Malcolm Shaw hit Justin Barker with his right fist to the right side of Justin’s head, right around the temple,” Lewis wrote. “Justin went down face first, knocked out . . .” Most witnesses agree that a single punch knocked Barker out cold. The only adult who witnessed the punch says Mychal Bell didn’t throw it."

And that is the crux of his case, Mychal Bell stands accused of having initiated the attack.

So while I admire your attempt at objectivity, you seem to have picked up an unconscious bias somewhere that six boys did this and the six accused are guilty.

Anonymous said...

Rotcoddam: when do white guys ever hold up black guys? I beleive you have the races switcched up in your analogy, and statistically, I would be ovewhelmingly right.

Anonymous said...

what does that person mean by a "single punch knocked the victim unconscious"? ... so you're admitting that the rest of the gang kicked and stomped on him when he was already down & unconscious? How much more vicious is that? The brutality of those six boys is beyond compare. I'd like to see them get stomped upon repeatedly as punishment for their crime. Perhaps then they'd think twice before commiting this type of violence again.

Anonymous said...

"so you're admitting that the rest of the gang..." No. I'm not "admitting", alleging or insinuating that there a) was a gang, b) "the rest" were involved in any way, c) that the boys accused were involved, d) that a total of any six individuals were involved.

It is pretty public knowledge that Barker was laid down with a single punch and that anyone who attacked him after that was cowardly in the worst degree.

What I am explaining is two things. First, just because six stand accused does not mean that six of any identity were involved. Second, while someone must have been involved it may not have been _any_ of these six.

You say "The brutality of those six boys is beyond compare." Those six? Indeed, really six? Six is not the number of assailants that witnesses saw.

You do not have to like the six boys accused or approve of their past to want them to be given the same benefit of the doubt that _everyone_ is supposed to receive when they stand accused; innocent until proven guilty. That is so very far from the way this is being handled. And there lies one of its tragedies.

cheerful iconoclast said...

My anonymous commenter's point is well-taken, and in a later post I made it clear that, if any of the six are in fact innocent, then of course they're not cowards.

At the time I wrote this post, I had not yet heard anybody suggest that they were actually innocent -- it was all about racial disparities and the tree, and attempts to minimize the victim's injuries.

I agree that, if true, the questions you raise about the trial testimony cast doubt on Mychal Bell's guilt.

But I don't know if, in fact, your characterization of the trial is accurate. I've read that in only one source, which was clearly an advocacy piece. No mainstream objective media source has reported this exculpatory evidence.

And if there's all this doubt, why are all the defenders of the Jena 6 bleating on about irrelevancies? Why are they attacking the victim? Why not say "our guys didn't do it"?

Anonymous said...

I believe you need to do more research and to people calling this unbiased....please...she is calling the kids cowards and then wanting to speak insults to their parents. I wonder how you would feel if this was your son sitting in jail. I am white by the way and feel that alot led up to this. Justin Barker being one of the "alot", the scool being another part of the "alot", DA Reed Walters being part of the "alot", the tension between whites and blacks in this community being another "alot". Are the boys who hit Justin Barker without blame? No. But who protected this boys. Who protected them from the racism at school? Who protected them when they were beaten with beer bottles....worse than a tennis shoe....and the white offenders got off with a Class C misdemeanor. Who protected them when a 12 guage riot shot gun was pointed at them? No, when they wrestled the gun away from their assailant THEY were charged. Who protected them from DA Reed Walters and a defensive lawyer who did not do his job. Did you even bother to do research? Did you know that a non-bias adult witnessed the attack and that Mychal Bell is not even the one who hit Justin Barker? Yet, the DA surely did not put him on the stand because then he could not crucify Mychal Bell. Ask yourself why Mychal's attorney did not put him on the stand? Are you aware that most of the injuries...including the concusion you speak of....was caused by Justin heating the concrete? Not to mention he was trampled by the crowd of kids running. I do not believe anyone is saying nothing should happen to the ones that actually did hit him....yet only one person really witnessed it....but that it should be treated fairly. They acutally did less than the white boys involved. The school, parents of the white boys, the police, the DA, etc. did not protect these boys and they felt they had to take matters in their own hands. These kids do not deserve to have their futures taken from them.....you need to do better research before you "spread the truth". What if you son was being supressed and picked on daily over months and months....think he might snap one day? Also, it is very much disputed how many were involved....most "witnesses" only remembered two or three. What is odd is the six blamed are the six that tried to have a peaceful protest under the tree that is not disputed as being the whites only tree and when a black tried to sit there they hung their warning of nooses. Do you want to talk to the white boys parents and tell them how ashamed you are of them raising such racist kids? I teach my kids to love all people as we are all God's children. They are the black kids that the DA threatened with a wave of his pen...another undisputed fact that he admitted to saying to those six kids and mind you, that is before the hit to Justin Barker. I find the fact that he is charging that exact 6 disturbing. We should all be outraged that this is happening regardless of race but as a matter of fair justice for all.

Anonymous said...

Dear Kevin...hmmmm, I am a white female but I know I am right on this....if six big black football players really wanted to beat one white redneck to death...hmmmm, I think he would have ended up looking alot worse than a black eye and a concusion (which actually was caused when he hit concrete as he passed out from the one blow to his head) and he would not have been able to attend his ring ceremony that night because he would have been in a body cast. Seriously, think about it! or actually google images and really look at his injuries....I have seen worse where nobody was charged.....then look at pics of the accused. They were fed up and nobody was protecting them for the unfair justice and racism that was happening to them....lesser men would have snapped. I wonder if you ever have gotten in a fight? Would have wanted to go to jail for the rest of your life for giving someone a blackeye? Please. Regardless of your race, it is unfair. The black kids were beaten with beer bottles. The white kids are not serving life sentences. Where is your outrage on that fact?

Anonymous said...

What do you think is a worse crime....hitting someone with a beer bottle or a tennis shoe? Black kids are jumped by white kids and hit with beer bottles. This could have killed him as you point out about the concussion. Black kids hit a white boy with a tennis shoe. Has a tennis shoe ever been used to kill someone I wonder? Would not be most killers weapon of choice. Yet the black kids were trying to kill the white kids? What were the white boys trying to do to the black boys with the beer bottles? How can one be a simple assualt and the other be attempted murder? That is the injustice. The other injustice is the white boys with the beer bottles are not in dispute as who did it. There is conflicting stories about who actually hit Justin Barker and how many were involved in the kicking. Yet black boys are sitting in jail while the white boys are sitting at the dinner table with their families. That is the injustice in this case.

Anonymous said...

Are you aware there was never any medical evidence that he actually had a concussion? He orginally only complained about his eye to the paramedics and then again at the hospital. He was tested and observed and let go within a few hours. It was only later that he started saying he has recurring headaches yet still no medical reason has been found to prove he does in fact. He also orginally stated he was jumped by 15. You are so quick to believe the 6 boys named are guilty...yet he orginally said 15 hit/kicked him. The point is if the law is going to be used to the fullest in Jena for crimes then Justin Barker should be charged with bringing a gun and bullets on school grounds. Something not taken too lightly with all the school shootings. The boys that hit the black boys with beer bottles should be charged with attempted murder and/or assualt with a deadly weapon. The one who pulled out a loaded shotgun should be charged. But that is not what is happening. Not to mention that there is much reasonable doubt of who actually hurt Kevin and yet these boys are not getting proper legal defense or a fair trial or fair prosecution. That is what the nationally heard outcry is all about.

cheerful iconoclast said...

Well, the comments are lively, if nothing else.

I wish my anonymous friends would use pseudonyms or something. I don't mind anonymity in this context, but if y'all used "billy-bob" and "Frank" I could at least tell who's saying what, who's responding to whom, etc.

It's a bit sloppy to talk about people being beaten with beer bottles. To the best of my knowledge, one person, Robert Bailey, claims that one guy hit him with a beer bottle. There is no evidence he got medical treatment, and, to the best of my knowledge, no corroboration.

I agree that an attack with a beer bottle is indeed serious, and that it could give rise to a charge of attempted murder. But you seem to be taking Bailey's uncorroborated word on faith, and I don't think that is warranted.

And I also have to say, as I said in the original post, that I find attempts to minimize the extent of an assault victim's injuries to be quite off-putting.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but I just have to say that you are missing this point altogether. This case isn't about race, it's about injustice. You can't treat the beating like an isolated event because it wasn't. You have to take into account all of the events leading up to the event...

Anonymous said...

IF I WAS GONN GO TO JAIL FOR 22 YEAR I WOULD HAVE MADE SURE THAT BOY DIED. I'M JUST PISSED NO BODY GOT THE 3 KIDS THAT HUNG THE NOOSES, THEY DESERVED THE BEAT DOWN. SOMETHING TELL ME JUSTIN WILL THINK TWICE BEFOR HE GOES CALLIN BLACK PEOPLE NIGGERS. I BEEN LOOKIN FOR INFORMATION TO SEEN HOW BADLY THIS KID GOT BEATEN UP. CONCUSSION, WHICH I'VE HAD, AINT ENOUGH FOR ATTEMPTED MURDER. ATTEMPTED MURDER WHERE THERE IS NO WEAPON INVOLVED SHOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO PROVE. BUT IN MY WORLD IF YOU SHOOT SOMEBODY IN THE LEG THATS NOT ATTEMPTED MURDER EITHER. ALL I KNOW IS THE VICTEM AINT GO THRU ANYTHING WORSE THAN ROCKY.

Anonymous said...

The charge of aggravated battery, in accordance with Louisiana law, is defined thusly: "Aggravated battery is a battery committed with a dangerous weapon."

This is my issue with your interpretation. Your analysis suggests that because the victim in this case sustained a concussion, which in rare cases can be life threatening, the charges were somehow justified. The DA in this case argued, in order to meet the standards of the statute, that a tennis shoe was a "deadly weapon."

To test the validity of this claim, i typed the phrase, in quotes, "killed with a tennis shoe" into google. No results were returned.

I too have scoured the net to find all sides of this issue, and in reading your analysis, I have to say that it is completely misguided, and pulls its own muscles in an attempt to present an objective (and largely opposing) viewpoint.

I think most reasonable people would agree, especially considering the legal standards applied to the white students in the barn incident the weekend before, that these charges are, without edit, stupid and transparently biased.

I'm not sure what is more troubling, you're lack of intellectual clarity on the issue, or your blind certainty that, in this analysis, you are somehow being objective.

Anonymous said...

previous post edit "your* lack of intellectual clarity..."

What a wonderful opportunity to not only edit a error in grammar, but also drive home my opinion of your views....

Anonymous said...

"previous post edit "your* lack of intellectual clarity..."

What a wonderful opportunity to not only edit an* error in grammar, but also drive home my opinion of your views...."

You have to admit... this is pretty funny...

Anonymous said...

I love this one:

"To test the validity of this claim, i typed the phrase, in quotes, "killed with a tennis shoe" into google. No results were returned."

You make it sound like someone holding a tennis show struck the victim. I Googled "stomped to death" and got 664,000 hits.

Anonymous said...

"You make it sound like someone holding a tennis show struck the victim. I Googled "stomped to death" and got 664,000 hits."

You have an overwhelming inability to understand anything. The point of my post was that the standards of the statute were applied too liberally in this case, particularly given the photograph of the boy's face. The attack was brutal to be sure, but the fact that he was released and able to attend a ring ceremony later in the evening is very telling. If he had been sent to the ICU on account of the injuries, I would have more sympathy for your point of view.

Another point: In the DA's own statement, he condemned the "noose incident," saying that he wanted to charge the white kids with a hate crime, but could only apply the statute if another charge had been levied. He claims he could find nothing to charge them with, yet, as liberally as he applied aggravated battery, I'm amazed he couldn't have dug up something to make the charge stick. Imagine arguing this hypothetical "hate crime" case, a true stretch under the law, in front of an all black jury.

I think my point was pretty clear, but again, modern racism is defined not by its historical overtness, but by people's insistence that they neither are or could be biased based on the color of another's skin.

In addition, the author's post is not as straightforward and objective as he or she would like to claim, and transparently so. He chose to define all six as "a mob of cowardly thugs" in the title! The assumption that all six were guilty nonwithstanding, the use of the word "thugs" immediately places it on a racially biased footing. How carefully considered and objective was the author when that title was chosen?

Everyone agrees that the kids who are found guily should be punished, but it should be clear to anyone with a functioning brain that this overzealous prosecution is racially motivated.

Anonymous said...

F*CK the JENA 6! The SIX bast*rds picked out a random guy and beat him UNCONSCIOUS.

I don't give a sh*t who was black and who was white. They were a gang that decided to f*ck someone up. They deserve everything that's coming to them in prison.

You don't get to pick someone out and beat the sh*t out of them. If you do, then you're a CRIMINAL. Period.

All you people whining "FREE JENA 6" need to go the f*ck home. You don't know what you're talking about.

Buck Kharma said...

Two times in my life I have been where I was in a five to one odds. One was an assualt and I manged to get away. The other was a mugging, but they were happy to get money and leave. My point is the emotional and psychological woulds of abuse are to be considered as well as the physical. I had many nightmares for a few years. Six to One odds is very uneven. We have to look at this situation with objective jurisprudence, not emotional rantings.

Anonymous said...

I just want to say a couple of things. If these six guys did not do this, then they should not be punished. Period. Can anyone find out who actually did it? Second, if someone was hit with a beer bottle and he walked away from it and did not have to be carried, it is truly amazing. And I don't believe it. That happens in the movies-not reality. And he didn't need medical attention? No cuts on his head? Then it didn't happen. Third, if a man is holding a shotgun on three guys and they take it away from him without anyone getting shot, then, he never meant to hurt anyone. If someone tries to snatch a loaded shotgun away from me, if my finger is on the trigger, that thing is going to go off and someone is bound to get hit. That boy was scared and using it in the hope he could protect himself, but unwilling to actually hurt anyone. I think the fact that the boys did not use it on him shows that they did not really want to hurt anyone, either. It would be great if you could always believe what people say, but I am afraid you can't. It would make things a lot easier if you could, but that is not the world we live in. I see people who do things with my own eyes only to have them tell me with wide and innocent eyes that they "weren't doing anything." I guarantee you, both groups of kids were doing something. As for the end result of the beating-A head injury can lead to intercranial bleeding not to mention other things. Maybe the guy should have posed naked for pictures so everyone could have seen his bruises covered by his clothing. Where a teen-age boy may be hurting too badly to, say, cut the grass or take out the garbage, most of them will go to something like a ring ceremony if they have to go on a stretcher. Interestingly enough, however, Rodney King led the police on a high speed chase through residential areas and when cops caught him he lunged into one of them and they beat the daylights out of him. As a result, there was a riot with millions of dollars worth of damage. Sure, they were using sticks instead of tennis shoes, but he had been doing a lot more than running his mouth--As for the nooses, that was nothing less than threats and intimidation. Anyone who says there could not have been charges for that is full of crap. And that is where the ball was dropped. It really sounds to me like the DA IS racist as hell and because he would not handle this situation intelligently, it has spiraled out of control and kids who might not have behaved so badly if someone was putting limits on them, and the other kids had felt that they could receive justice, are the ones who are paying for it-one who is lucky, I don't care what anyone says-that he was not hurt more severely, and the others whose lives are truly being screwed up. We've already had one gung ho, politically motivated man screw over a lacrosse team, now we have had another mishandle this whole tree incident and black boys and white boys, too, have been hurt by it. How about the rest of us trying not to be so stupid. Anyone who claims that there is not racism alive and at work today among people of both black and white color is STUPID, and I've read good examples on this site from both sides. One thing I will never agree to, though, is that it is okay to beat the hell out of someone, two boys, three boys, or six boys on one, becaue of something he SAID. Clearly, this should have been stopped before it ever got to that.

Anonymous said...

I think it's important to note that, as you point out, there is little focus on actual innocence. And yet, Google Jena Six and most people are calling for thier freedom as if they should not be held accountable for thier actions at all. Apparently there are people who think yelling "racist" is still powerful enough to allow misbehaving minorities to do as they please. Apparently whites in this country are going to be paying war reparations with thier blood for years to come.

I realize that there are those who are posting comments regarding issues before this beating incident as if that is relevant. So someone gets hit in the head with a bottle after trying to crash a party where they were not invited nor welcome and that's somehow being used as an excuse for beating up someone who had nothing to do with that incident at all...

I wonder why I haven't noticed a comment about the reversal of races in this incident would not only present a whole different result but if it were six white men who beat up a black man, not only would there be outrage in trying to defend them, but they would have been charged with a hate crime on top of the rest of the charges which carries a much stiffer penalty.

Understand, I think all of these events are absolutely horrible for everyone involved. But this incendent is just one more step in me believeing that the biggest problem is that we've been led to believe that diversity is great and we should all get along. Perhaps we are too different culturally for that to ever be true.

Anonymous said...

You fail to mention the fight where the white boys beat up the black boys... and the gun that a white boy pulled on the black boys.

Everyone is focusing on the Jena 6 and fail to mention the fault of the white boys. Nor were the white boys ever charged with anything.

That picture of Justin Barker by no means shows any signs of attempted murder. Battery - yes, attempted murder - not a chance.

No one mentions the fact that the DA threatened the black boys when they did a silent protest about the boys responsible for hanging the nooses were only suspended for 3 days.

Which brings me to another point - when a black student feels the need to ask the administration if he can sit under the "white tree" WE HAVE NOT DONE OUR JOB AS A SOCIETY TO HELP ELIMINATE RACISM. Something is wrong with that picture - and posts like yours support the actions of white people in Jena.

cheerful iconoclast said...

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For the rest of my life I'll struggle with my growing sense of prejudism. Too often I see this large, loud and vocal group of complainers crying about injustices that I never see. When you're white in America, and things don't go your way, you can't blame it on race. You just have to suck it up and move forward. All nationalities struggled - all nationalities have been able to overcome injustices. This country has an enormous amount of great Black Americans so I know that black individuals can overcome their burdens.

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For the comments from people who are trying to correct spelling mistakes I ask, Are you really that ignorant? You are railroading the entire basis of this story and trying to devalorize someone's opinion on a spelling error? This is not a scholarly journal essay--it is a blog. So calm down.

I find it interesting to read through one of these things. I am writing a paper on Jena 6 and the role the media is playing on this topic. I needed a source to show how ignorant some people are, and you all have provided a wonderful analysis of what the problem is in this country. Congratulations! Maybe all of you white supremacists could all get together for coffee or lunch and build a fort or establish your own settlement--or better yet, maybe the government can do it for you, and you will begin to understand the oppression that minority groups in this country feel. You might begin to see the effects of segregation.

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My post was two before yours. I think it's clear, from my comments, that I'm white. Not "priveleged" - not a college student or graduate.

My post was based on my experiences. It wasn't based on books or the opinions of others.

But I want to thank you - a self confessed white "priveleged" college student - for enlightening me and others on the plight of minority races in the United States.

You're right, I don't have the experiences you mentioned. Do you? Please enlighten us further on your personl experience in a topic such as so we can learn why we're ignorant racists.

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